Those who don’t support Newt often point to his challenge to seven Lincoln/Douglas style debates, should Newt be the GOP nominee and note that Obama would never agree to that.
Hey, it’s a fair point. The last thing Obama wants to do is debate Newt Gingrich.
That said, does it matter? This election, no matter who Obama faces in November, is going to be about Obama’s record. Plain and simple. And these debates don’t necessarily have to happen for them to impact the race. If Obama goes on the record refusing to debate Newt Gingrich, who comes out looking better? The one asking Obama to defend his record, or the one who can’t defend his record?
It’s obvious Obama will “agree to the standard three debates” in formats established by past precedent. He will say that is enough, that it’s worked in the past, yada, yada, yada. But, if Newt wins the GOP nomination, you can bet that his performance in the debates will have had something (if not a lot) to do with it. If Obama were at all confident in his positions, and was able to defend his record and pat himself on the back for his accomplishments, these debates would be easy for him. Obama, you recall, was supposed to be a great communicator. If Mr. Harvard University can’t face Mr. West Georgia College, what does that say about him?
Newt’s debate challenge has been a prominent theme of his campaign, and it won’t go away the first time Obama cowers into the corner refusing. The big question will be “Obama doesn’t want to debate, why not?”
We know why not. That’s why we need Newt as the nominee. He’s the candidate who has best been able to articulate just how bad Obama has been for the country. If he spent even an hour debating Obama, Obama would probably be convinced that his tenure has been a disaster.
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The big question will be “Obama doesn’t want to debate, why not?”
Huh?
maybe because he is a Freeking idiot.
Newt: “I Want America To Become So Energy Independent That No American President Ever Again Bows To The Saudi King.”
Newt is growing. Great line. Hope he uses it in the debates with barky. If he is lucky enough to the GOP nominee.
The US gets most of its oil from Canada so I’m worried about bowing before the Maple Leaf. Actually, the holding hands between Saud King and GWB is the standard.
At the same time if Newt goes around and demands 7 Lincoln-Douglas debates of 4 hours each, he probably won’t make much progress with the voters. If he is going to ask for 7 debates, make them shorter, 2 hours, maybe, or the voters will think he’s asking too much.
The reason I don’t support newt is because he has no chance of winning the general election and because of all the nominees, he is the least conservative.
jamestooge
BS
thats the lefts mantra alinsky 101
bzzzzzt dont fly in Rio Linda or here
neoconehead
which of the remaining candidates is less conservative than Newt in your opinion and why?
So, who do you support, and why, James?
Newt will do well debating Obama. He knows more about running a government than Obama ever dreamed about, and he knew how to run government before Obama was ever born. Newt will restore this nation’s economy by creating more work and job openings. He will do his very best to get manufacturing back on the rise, and booming again. Newt is an opportunity that we will have, as someone who is as close to a genius for President as we have ever had in our lifetimes. He has extraordinary capabilities to make America strong unparalleled in history. And what he promises, he will do! That is what I like about him probably the best, is his trustworthiness, as trust is the number one attribute, the whole point of putting someone in the most powerful position in the world, President of the United States.
OT
neocon1 January 22, 2012 at 11:58 pm #
neocon1 January 22, 2012 at 11:52 am #
RIP JOE
My predictions………………..today Giants and New England
super bowl, New England
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Cluster January 22, 2012 at 1:24 pm #
You’re way off neocon – SF beats NY and faces NE in the super bowl. Go Niners!!!
AHEM!! 🙂
The Giants got lucky. And now I hope Brady rips them a new one.
cluster
both winning teams got lucky, both great games. That is what championship foot ball should look like.
Two good games to be sure – I can’t believe that I am saying this but –
Go Pats!
Last week I posed a question that I had heard on a sports talk show — that New England had not beaten a team with a winning record during the regular season. Out of curiosity, I decided to see if that was true. It is. In fact, Baltimore is the only winning team NE has beaten all year, and, had the Ravens not missed a chip-shot field goal in the closing seconds last night, we might not even be having this discussion.
Here are the teams the Patriots beat during the regular season with their win/loss records (they played the Jets and the Dolphins twice)
Miami – (6-10)
San Diego (8-8)
Oakland (8-8)
New York Jets (8-8)
Dallas (8-8)
Kansas City (7-9)
Philadelphia (8-8)
Indianapolis (2-14)
Washington (5-11)
Denver (8-8)
Buffalo (6-10)
Now the Giants didn’t exactly have a stellar record either, but they’re peaking at the right time. Their regular season victory over the Patriots, and their blow-out of the Packers in the playoffs will propel them to victory in the Super Bowl. Besides, I’m a Payton Manning fan, and, since his career is likely over, I’d love to see his brother win another Super Bowl ring for the Manning family.
For political expediency, Obama abandons Iraq and leaves behind chaos.
Iraq is falling back into authoritarianism and headed towards becoming a police state, despite US claims that it has helped establish democracy in the country, Human Rights Watch said on Sunday.
Meanwhile, the Muslim Brotherhood takes control of Egypt. I think Obama’s foreign policy of “leading from behind” isn’t working. Just a hunch.
http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=CNG.f4b3121d53c9061ef3bd59387255abe5.51&show_article=1
jimmah the flop who lost Iran
Obummer the flop who lost the whole ME
russia now selling sophisticated aircraft and other weapons to syria
good job barry
Im still in the Santorum camp, maybe he could hire the fig to debate for him…..?
WOW
Chris Christie: Gingrich ‘Has Been an Embarrassment to the Party’
AP
New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie said Sunday Newt Gingrich’s past actions have been “an embarrassment” to the Republican Party and a reason why he should not get the GOP nomination for president.
Speaking on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Christie, a Mitt Romney supporter, said the country doesn’t “need another legislator in the oval office.”
“We need an executive, someone who both in the private sector and as a governor understands how to bring people together and use executive power,” Christie said. “The Speaker simply doesn’t have that experience, he’s never run anything.
Couldn’t be more wrong.
Iran was lost with the overthrow of Mossadegh. It took some time but was inevitable. The problem in Iraq is of course overthrowing Saddam, leaving a power vacuum. Showing that Obama isn’t immune to the stupidity, Libya and Egypt will also be pains in the future.
baldork
bull crappy
santorum is the most conservative
The Iranian Revolution
Fast forward to New Years Eve, 1977: President Carter toasted the Shah at a state dinner in Tehran, calling him “an island of stability” in the troubled Middle East. What the president also knew, but chose to ignore, was that the Shah was in serious trouble. As opposition to his government mounted, he had allowed his secret police, SAVAK, to crack down on dissenters, fueling still more resentment. Within weeks of Carter’s visit, a series of protests broke out in the religious city of Qom, denouncing the Shah’s regime as “anti-Islamic.” The popular movement against the Shah grew until January 16, 1979, when he fled to Egypt. Two weeks later, thousands of Muslims cheered Khomeini’s return to Iran after fourteen years in exile.
Did the Carter administration “lose” Iran, as some have suggested? Gaddis Smith might have put it best: “President Carter inherited an impossible situation — and he and his advisers made the worst of it.” Carter seemed to have a hard time deciding whether to heed the advice of his aggressive national security advisor, Zbigniew Brzezinski, who wanted to encourage the Shah to brutally suppress the revolution, or that of his more cautious State Department, which suggested Carter reach out to opposition elements in order to smooth the transition to a new government. In the end he did neither, and suffered the consequences.
A guy who called into Rush last week said what a lot of people are thinking. He said he’d like to see Gingrich debate Obama and then have Romney be President.
Fla will be the real measuring tape in ten days
As I said in “Newt Wins South Carolina Primary,” in the Lincoln – Douglas debates, in 1858, Lincoln was a lawyer in private practice, Douglas was the incumbent senator, with national recognition. The prominent issue was slavery in those debates.
To get Douglas to debate him, which as a incumbent, Douglas knew he didn’t need to do; Lincoln would follow Douglas wherever he went and would speak after Douglas gave his speech, forcing his hand. At that time, state legislators selected US Senators and since Democrats controlled the Illinois legislature, Douglas was re-elected to the US Senate.
When Lincoln debated Douglas, he saw newspapers publishing the debates, it gave him recognition. Lincoln edited the texts of all of the debates and had them published in a book, using them for his run for president.
It is conceivable of Gingrich, if nominated, following Obama’s campaign schedule and countering whatever Obama said. Over time, challenging the Columbia, Harvard graduate to his debate format. The question is what would be public perception of Obama if he refused to debate the West Georgia College teacher under his terms.
It would be interesting.
I’d like to make a point on why Romney fell in South Carolina and why he may have problems in Florida. Newt is a good debater but that isn’t the main reason Romney lost in so many demographics in South Carolina. With all the money, the lavish Hollywood production sets at his events and the nifty little sound bites on America, capitalism or the economy, Romney failed to connect with the Republican South Carolina voter. When Newt spoke, they believed he was talking to them, not a group of potential voters. Newt, with all his ideas, all his historical tidbits he had substantive ideas he was setting before them. He doesn’t talk like a CEO but as a leader of a group, which is why he says that together we can change Washington. If Romney continues to fail to make the direct connection with Republican voters he will continue to have problems, if his main opponent is Gingrich, Santorum or Obama.
Iran was lost with the overthrow of Mossadegh. It took some time but was inevitable. – barstool
You just can’t leave stupid alone, can you? So you’re saying that 26 years after the Iranian army removed Mossadegh, Iran fell into Muslim extremists hands as a direct result thereof.
Wow. You and Elizabeth Warren have a lot in common.
You just can’t leave stupid alone, can you?
LOL
The British and US government overthrew Mossadegh and any amount of your lying won’t change that in the eyes of the Iranian people. The Iranians will be secular state again in your lifetime, chump.
Of course we could look to the most oppressive Muslim country in the Mideast aka Saudi Arabia for more insight. That is also where the 9/11 bombers came from (not Iran). Again the US loves the Saud family and its tactics and it looks like a stable country. Eventually, there will be an overthrow there as well. The timing depends on how long the Saudi’s can keep the majority of their people illiterate.
So now you speak for the Iranian people? Barstool, your desire to revise history in re: to Mossadegh is duly noted.
Clueless
Having known hundreds of Iranian students and teachers in my years I would say that I have a better grasp on their opinion than you do. But, don’t take my word for things. Make friends with a few Persians and find out their outlook for your own.
Iranians are largely secular, are from a completely different branch of Islam than their neighbors, have a rich cultural heritage and don’t like Arabs much. Iranians hates Saudi Arabia 100 times more than Israel.
Can you offer a website comparable to Wikipedia which is unbiased and supports your version of events for Iran?
I don’t disagree with their rich cultural heritage, or the secular aspect, I know that too be true. Unfortunately they are currently governed by a radical regime ushered him by Carter’s indifference to the long established relationship America had with the Pahlavi family. When Mossadegh, who was appointed to his position, attempted to nationalize the oil industry and take with it the infrastructure built by Britain, against the wishes of the Shah, he was removed by the Iranian Army with the assistance of the US and British forces. That’s a fact. Mossadegh was subsequently arrested, convicted and spent time in prison, after which enjoying life in Iran until his death, and the Shah went on to rule for another 26 years.
When the students rose up in 2009, Obama missed a golden opportunity to test that secular and independent Iranian streak. Unfortunately, he failed, and Neda died.
Excellent point regarding the no-fail win-win in the extended debate challenge. Professional wrestling has used this gimmick forever: one wrestler gives interview after interview demanding a match, saying stuff like “I’m easy to find”, etc. – the other guy ducks him until the commissioner or general manager or some other faux authority mandates it, and that many more people will pay to watch. It works. And the “standard 3” is all Newt needs to completely eviscerate the Empty Suit.
d(^_^)b
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“Because the Only Good Progressive is a Failed Progressive”
From Chris Christie yesterday:
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-57363518-503544/christie-gingrich-an-embarrassment-to-gop/?tag=re1.channel
And, of course, you love Christie, don’t you, Sunny?
scummy
I think Christie is a loudmouth BS artist and an embarrassment to the GOP.
NEXT?
and he is a fat ass
I actually like a lot of things about Chris Christie – he is honest, knows how to work with his legislators in his state and is accomplishing a lot. I am surprised that a so called liberal by this group of clowns likes what Christie has to say, but these clowns here do not. He does need to loose a lot of weight – he is a walking heart attack.
scummy
clowns? this coming from you the clarabell standard? ROTFLMAO
honk honk
Christie is NOT a conservative, he is on a few points, the rest he is a cheese burg eating kook.
second amendment? Bzzzzzttttt
AGW? Bzzzzzzzzztttttt
Coal? Bzzzzztttttt
nuclear ? Bzzzztttttt
Chris Christie Picks Gay Black Man, Korean To Diversify All-White State Supreme Court…
WTF ?????
talk about an embarrassment ???
SIT DOWN FAT BOY and STFU!!