A bit of a re-write, because initially this thread was ungraciously titled. Listening to Romney speak tonight reminded me that we’re bigger than that.
Obama has won a narrow victory – with the exceptional rarity of a President winning a 2nd term with a lower vote total than he won his first term with. We on our side clearly did not put together a good enough program to convince a solid majority that we were best for the nation – but neither did Obama. He got it together and managed to get the win, but it is a hollow victory.
Our liberals are convinced that now all the Hope and Change of 2008 will finally come to pass – that some how or another the policies which have failed so miserably over the past four years will now bear fruit. I don’t see how anyone can rationally believe that – I can understand having faith, but not having faith in policies which have never worked, not even once. But, now they’ve got their chance. Obama is inheriting Obama – if his brand of economic policies work then we’ll know for certain by election day, 2016.
A lot of conservatives will now start to pan Romney. I won’t. He ran an excellent campaign and I don’t see a real mis-step. Sure, we can all look back with 20/20 hindsight and say he should have done this, that or the other thing…but as it was unfolding, I don’t see what was missed. I thought we had this thing won. I’m still flabbergasted that we didn’t. But I won’t spend any time or effort re-hashing what happened.
The things we need to work on are many – to just name a few:
1. Yes, we need to have an amnesty for illegals. Don’t look all shocked: I’ve been advocating for it since 2007. I know all the arguments against – but none of them work against the stark reality that there are 10 million of them here, many of which have been long domiciled in the United States. Secure the border, amnesty the otherwise law-abiding illegals we have and then ensure that no more illegals can get in. This is not a play for Latino votes – this is a rational way to get the entire issue off the table while at the same time adhering to our finest national ideals. We must amend the Constitution to change the definition of citizen to read, “all persons born of an American citizen are citizens of the United States and the State wherein they reside”.
2. We need to break our ties entirely with Big Business – to make it clear that Big Government and Big Business are two exceptionally nasty sides of the same disgusting coin; that they, together, are ruining our nation and they both must go if we are ever to really recover our prosperity and our freedom. Big Government includes Big Government Union, by the way – we must continue the fight that Walker has started and carry it to total, nationwide victory. Democrats live and die by Big Government and Big Business – destroy them and we destroy the Democrat party as it is currently constituted.
3. We must start to work, on a State-by-State level, for a Freedom of Conscience Restoration Amendment to the Constitution – to ensure that no matter what cockamamie ideas our liberals come up with that our religious bodies – in the widest possible definition – are entirely immune from government dictates.
4. We must attack and attack and then attack some more the growing immorality in our popular culture. As part of the war against Big Business we must point out that the nauseating filth in our popular culture is brought to us by Big Business in order to make profits off the ruination of people’s lives.
There is plenty more – all of it needs to be worked on. All of it can be done.
So, stout hearts an in to the future with confidence.
It must feel pretty good to be as dumb and delusional as those people who voted for Obama.
I’m thankful that I still have my brain-cells intact, as opposed to Liberals who got caught in a dryer vent and all their bran-cells sucked out.
Jeremiah, why do you think your God abandoned Romney in favor of President Obama? It’s strange to think He would allow brainless, dumb and delusional Liberals to successfully elect someone who is out to ruin a God-fearing, gun-toting country like the U.S. Does this make you question your faith, or are you satisfied that He knows what He is doing?
kanuckommie
God punishes sin, it rains on the good as it does on the bad.
the donk party is the party of evil. You of all people should know that.
CO, your pathetic effort at sarcasm falls far short of the biting commentary you probably imagine it to be.
If you believe in a random universe, where your life is nothing but a fleeting blip with no meaning beyond its short span, and where nothing is part of a larger meaning, then go right ahead.
But when you try to ridicule those with different beliefs, in a post such as yours, all you do is illustrate a very nasty bigotry about religious belief, as well as abject ignorance of it.
i can’t imagine a single person of faith construing this election as God “abandoning” Mitt Romney. What a strange and bizarre conclusion!
Of course anyone of faith DOES believe that there are reasons for everything that happens, and the inability to recognize those reasons by people, particularly people so close to the event in both time and space, is hardly proof that there is no reason at all.
I suggest that you restrain your substitution of sneering and snarling for actual political content to things other than attacks on religion and people of faith, as when you wander into the unfamiliar territory of respect for the beliefs of others you do nothing more than showcase your ignorance and bigotry.
Caught this gem in the middle of the election story on my home page today:
I’d love for one of our resident Lefties to explain to me how expanding the entitlement class and punishing the wealthy will “help the middle class”.
One thing about this, people like Casper, Canadian Observer, James, Jonathan, Diane, Freddie Schwartz putz…when the economy goes south, which it is currently doing, as we speak, and the tribulation sets in, these people won’t last very long, they’ll go quick…but a lot of us will have to endure some very harsh times until our time comes.
The markets don’t much like the prospects of another 4 years of Barry and the Boyz. All major indices off over 2%. And oil is off 5%, which, according to all our resident Libs, is a sign of a weakening economy.
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notswiftsasan
this is simple,
say 5 million people scattered through a state some GOP, some donk.
95% county’s go red.
same state, 6 million innercity plantation dwellers, gang bangers, sodomites, uneducated drones, looters and takers voting lockstep to keep on the teat of OPM. (ubama phones and free rent).
the STATE by countys are solid are GOP but outnumbered by 2-3 large citys they are pushed blue….so we have two Americas.
the REAL America and the plantation america who now outnumber us.
“When the people find that they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.”
~Benjamin Franklin
That is the problem with America today….they vote themselves contraception over an education…they allow their genitals to do their thinking for them. Pitiful. I mean brain-dead pieces of garbage. They voted in that son of a sack of white trash Obama. They vote for welfare, disability, and single-payer healthcare, and now the quality of healthcare will go swiftly out the door, along with the sky-rocketing of taxes on working families.
Not only that, but look at the millions of young people who have been brainwashed.
Seriously! Take a look at that.
I hope my friends who can see this are prepared for what’s coming.
I was visiting with friends last night, and of course the main topic was our bewilderment that so many people had voted for four more years of the same misery that has dragged this nation down for the last four.
I finally admitted my little secret—that once I got over the amazement at the stupidity of the American public, I found myself feeling a sense of relief.
Oh, I fought hard to get Romney elected, I talked to people, I donated thousands of dollars, and I really wanted him to win. But at the same time, I understood what winning would mean—it would mean, to use a beloved Lefty term, ‘INHERITING the worse economic recovery in our history”, which would have been OK. I mean, Romney et al could have handled that.
But the nation is only on the brink of collapse. We have not yet actually experienced the devastation to the economy of the implementation of Obamacare, we have not yet experienced the impact of penalizing the Employment Class, we have not yet come to understand that so many of the jobs Obama claims to have created he actually DID create—by inventing new government jobs and putting those people on the government payroll, to be paid not by business but by us as taxpayers. We have only had a couple of terrorist attacks on Americans on American soil, both of which have been small enough to have been swept under the rug by the administration and the Complicit Agenda Media, so the sheeple out there who depend on the networks for their “news” really don’t understand how weak and vulnerable we are.
The struggle, the massive job, to fix these things could have and would have been successful, but it would have been like running a marathon with a ball and chain attached to our ankles, as the RRL machine would have been hounding us, howling its rage, nipping at our ankles, setting up speed bumps and trip wires, and because the situation at election time was still kind of on the edge of complete disaster would have been able to rally lots of the ignorant to their assistance. The Left would have been able to claim that Obamacare WOULD have worked, if the eeeeevil Right had just given it time. They could claim that their “plan” was STARTING to have an effect, but the eeeevil Right derailed it before it could prove its success.
We need to take over when there is no doubt about the abject failure of the Leftist agenda.
The job of doing this while at the same time rebuilding the GOP for the midterms would have been quite daunting. There is a sense of relief at knowing that now there is only one big job, which is to figure out how to slap the GOP leadership into the realization that they are pathetic at getting our message out, and into changing its tunnel-vision approach, while letting the House constrain the radical efforts of the Obamabots to fundamentally transform the nation.
Sadly, I do believe that we need to hit rock bottom before many Americans realize that they, themselves, built the machine to take us there, and decide to shift gears. I think it will take more attacks on a weakened nation which has sent out the message that there is no real downside to attacking us, and it will take more deaths and more economic misery to wake these people up and dispel the Magical Thinking that just because something has never worked it might work this time.
Without a strong, overwhelming, mandate this election cycle our job would have been much harder than just fixing what is wrong. I think the next four years will set up a mandate so massive that we will have much less opposition to doing the work that will need to be done, and in the meantime we can use this failure to either reform the GOP or move away from it to form a new party with a clearer vision of what the nation needs to regain its identity.
Amazona,
I’ve been saying for quite some time now that the only way Progressivism will ever be defeated is either a multi-generational effort to reverse the damage they’ve done by regaining control of the educational system and the courts or by some sort of economic or societal reset. I don’t think we, as a country, have the wherewithall to take the first route, but I agree with you that the second route will happen automatically if we just keep our powder dry and get out of the way.
no she is employed and pays taxes……..it is the libs who HATE Wal Mart….I LOVE it!
except today Americans bought lots of ammo there.
Nice try though……Bzzzzttttttt
What??? Are you really trying to claim that people who shop at WalMart don’t pay taxes?
My tax bill every year is probably more than your income, and I shop at WalMart all the time.
You bigots just don’t know when to stop, do you? This catty little “So…..” mewling sounds just like casper, not only being his favorite “So…..” tactic but being so feeble and bitchy.
sniff sniff
goat or camel?
and in Houston of all places.
by the time we are done with this constitution
James, what about all the various law enforcement agencies, military personnel and former and retired law enforcement and military who take their oath to uphold and defend the Constitution seriously. Don’t you think they might object?
spook
jimma/sasan must be thinking of Tehran.
they all love dictators dontcha know……..
As a former member of the US military (Marines), a TEA party member as well as an Oath Keeper–I have sworn my loyalty to the Constitution including respecting and defending it from all enemies both internal as well as external.
db
Me too
Semper Fi Do or Die!! brother!!
thefakewillnotsetyoufree
BS
just more leftist rhetoric by a pervert loving drone.
It surprises me that you would give WalMart your business, Amazona, by shopping there ‘all the time’ considering that almost all of their merchandise has been manufactured in China. It’s true that you may pay less of an item there, but since you claim to be a successful entrepreneur, why not patronize stores that support American made products?
(This was meant to appear in response to Amazona’s 10:41 a.m. post.)
Yes, we are dealing with the Random Placement gnome again.
You do love to leap to biased conclusions, don’t you?
For example, you have no idea of how close Wal Mart is to my home, what I buy there, or how far it would be to drive to buy the same products somewhere else.
You have no idea of the percentage of Wal Mart purchases related to my overall expenditures.
You have no idea of the availability of American made products that I need, anywhere.
In other words, you are trying to make a snide comment based on abject ignorance and your innate need to exhibit your spite and malice.
Perhaps the reason you have a problem with the availability of American made products, Amazona, is due to the fact that Walmart, by importing and selling low priced Chinese goods, has made competition almost impossible for local merchants.
What really surprised me the most about your confession to being a Walmart customer was how it seems to be in direct opposition to your patriotic stance. American companies exporting manufacturing jobs to China and corporations benefiting from such practice is something I would have thought you would have railed against.
I can see why folks earning low or minimum wage would have no other option than to purchase cheaper priced Chinese goods but why would someone as successful as you claim to be, Amazona, not want to spend a little extra if it meant you would be supporting American manufacturing?
You seem to have plenty of time to stick your nose in the business of other people and other countries, as well as as for sanctimonious moralizing and passing judgment.
Why don’t you put some of this time and energy to better use and do some research and tell me where I can buy American made:
Gas cans
Winter coveralls
Winter boots
Wrenches
Garden hoses
Hose fittings
That is a start, as this is a partial list of my recent WalMart purchases.
Then you can do a study on the comparative impact of high corporate taxation and regulation on American industry vs competition from abroad.
A chapter of this can be dedicated to the increased cost of having a business in the United States once the many tiers of additional taxation due to Obamacare start to kick in.
And then in the time you still have left, you can ponder the crudeness and rudeness and general low class of sticking that nose in the business of other countries. I’m doing a lot of business in Alberta right now, and have mentioned you, and the general agreement is that most Canadians are far more well bred and courteous than you.
And BTW, you don’t get to define “patriotism” much less redefine it to allow you to use it as an attack. I know the Left has very little understanding of the word, and many find it offensive, preferring instead a global government and the end of nationalism. So seeing the word tossed around by someone like you is like seeing our religious bigots lecture on the teachings of Jesus. You people grab onto a word that has meaning to others even when you don’t understand it or approve of it, only to use it as a weapon.
It’s a very ugly tactic.
A typical Lib, you don’t know the difference between the symptom and the disease. The lack of American made goods is only the symptom of the disease, which is a nation whose drift away from its Constitution and toward the Leftist model of high taxation and penalizing of production has gotten to the point where manufacturing has been driven away.
I know that the personality disorder you suffer from will never allow you to admit when you are wrong, Amazona, and I accept that.
If I am incorrect in this assumption and you can show me instances where you have actually deferred to a person with an opposing opinion, then I apologize.
“you don’t get to define “patriotism” much less redefine it to allow you to use it as an attack.”
Do you?
Are you saying I have?
If you are, you are lying.
I avoid the word “patriotism” because it is so inflammatory. It is quite subjective and no one can ever establish an objective evaluation of love.
I state my allegiance to the Constitution because I think it defines this nation and it is an objective, defined, document to which I have an objective defined, loyalty.
I couldn’t care less if you apologize or not.
I have often admitted to being wrong here on this blog, and in other places at other times. When encouraging employees to admit to mistakes so we can address them and move on, my usual statement is that on a good day I can be wrong three times before breakfast.
I have misquoted things, and made references which were contradicted and proved to be wrong, and I have always admitted to being wrong when I have been presented with proof that I was.
You try to be clever by starting off with the statement that I never admit when I am wrong (coyly trying to tie this in to your claim that this is really a personality disorder) but then you change the parameters of your claim to deferring to a person with an opposing opinion.
You do realize that these are not the same, don’t you?
When something is merely a matter of personal opinion, such as whether the formal union of a homosexual couple can legitimately be a “marriage”, there is no objective right or wrong. It is an opinion.
When it is something more objective, then I am hard put to remember a time when someone with an opposing political belief has argued his belief on its merits. So I have not had the chance to examine the arguments for big government, for example, presented with evidence to back them up, and therefore haven’t had a chance to “defer” to a compelling argument that my own beliefs are wrong.
Do you grasp the concept that if I thought my preference for a Constitutional form of government to govern the United States is wrong, it would not be my preference? Do you understand that my political beliefs are based on evaluation of historical data, and that a change would require proof that my data are not correct?
I see the same confusion in your comment that I do with Lefties who actually have the right to discuss U.S. politics—the befuddlement about objective conviction based on evidence and proof, regarding political systems, and why this can’t just be set aside to “get along”. I guess when ones’ own political position is based on emotion, that fluctuating and imprecise hormonal reaction to or against things, one assumes that the positions of others are equally ephemeral, and that holding to a position is just a sign of stubbornness rather than holding to a principle.
Don’t worry about it, CO—we see it all the time on your side, and don’t even expect any more from you guys any more.